Comments on: The Baptism of John http://www.christianmonthlystandard.com/index.php/the-baptism-of-john/ A Voice of Reason for the 21st Century Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:40:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mel http://www.christianmonthlystandard.com/index.php/the-baptism-of-john/comment-page-1/#comment-1671 Mel Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:13:57 +0000 http://www.christianmonthlystandard.com/?p=1406#comment-1671 I like how the thief came to realize and acknowledge that Christ was sinless (Christ was there unjustly.) /Then the thief  requested that he could  be remembered by Christ and Jesus said yes forever.  By the word of Christ to the thief Christ gave promise.   To us the word of the bible keys given to Peter we must repent and be baptized and we are given promise.  Just like I am not Adam, I am not the thief, even though I am a sinner. I like how the thief came to realize and acknowledge that Christ was sinless (Christ was there unjustly.) /Then the thief  requested that he could  be remembered by Christ and Jesus said yes forever.  By the word of Christ to the thief Christ gave promise.   To us the word of the bible keys given to Peter we must repent and be baptized and we are given promise.  Just like I am not Adam, I am not the thief, even though I am a sinner.

]]> By: Richard Vandagriff http://www.christianmonthlystandard.com/index.php/the-baptism-of-john/comment-page-1/#comment-1670 Richard Vandagriff Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:07 +0000 http://www.christianmonthlystandard.com/?p=1406#comment-1670 Interesting points Gary: but did not the thief die between covenants? Christ had not ushered in the Kingdom, as He was not dead when the robber had made his appeal. The thief may not have even been a Jew at all (the scriptures are silent on that) and the Kingdom came first to them, and later to the Gentiles. He called Jesus Lord and then asked for remembrance when Christ was to come into his Kingdom. This has an aire of imminence and immediacy, and I suspect he, the thief, was not considering end times quite like we might. For me, then, I would suggest that the Messiah, who is the Lord of Sabbaoth, was well within his rights to grant that the humbled thief would be in paradise with him that day. I would also suggest that to place hope that any of the particulars of that case might extend in any fashion towards me or anyone else, seems more than just a little shaky and presumptuous. I find no solace in such notions, and I know of no appeal to any scripture that would lend any. Interesting points Gary: but did not the thief die between covenants?

Christ had not ushered in the Kingdom, as He was not dead when the robber had made his appeal. The thief may not have even been a Jew at all (the scriptures are silent on that) and the Kingdom came first to them, and later to the Gentiles. He called Jesus Lord and then asked for remembrance when Christ was to come into his Kingdom. This has an aire of imminence and immediacy, and I suspect he, the thief, was not considering end times quite like we might.

For me, then, I would suggest that the Messiah, who is the Lord of Sabbaoth, was well within his rights to grant that the humbled thief would be in paradise with him that day. I would also suggest that to place hope that any of the particulars of that case might extend in any fashion towards me or anyone else, seems more than just a little shaky and presumptuous. I find no solace in such notions, and I know of no appeal to any scripture that would lend any.

]]> By: Gary Zimmerli http://www.christianmonthlystandard.com/index.php/the-baptism-of-john/comment-page-1/#comment-1669 Gary Zimmerli Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:07:48 +0000 http://www.christianmonthlystandard.com/?p=1406#comment-1669 Baptism was something John's hearers could do in response to what they heard, and the conviction in their hearts. Baptism should be normal and usual, but I don't think it can be an absolute requirement for salvation, the perfect example being the thief on the cross. Baptism was something John’s hearers could do in response to what they heard, and the conviction in their hearts.
Baptism should be normal and usual, but I don’t think it can be an absolute requirement for salvation, the perfect example being the thief on the cross.

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